WordPress.org Login Gets Mandatory Affiliation Checkbox Following WP Engine Dispute

The ongoing WP Engine-Automattic issue shows no signs of being resolved and has, in fact, increased in intensity. The conflict started last month with Matt Mullenweg’s spiciest Word Camp presentation at WordCamp US 2024 where he accused WP Engine of being a “cancer to WordPress”.

Yesterday, users who logged onto the WordPress.org home page were surprised to see two new additions. First, there was a new “WP Engine has filed a massive lawsuit” session under the password field linking to WP Engine’s X post.

Second, a new mandatory check box. You could access the account only if you confirmed “I am not affiliated with WP Engine in any way, financially or otherwise.” 

While the lawsuit mention was soon removed from the homepage, the checkbox remains.

WordPress.org later tweeted: “If you have questions on whether you are affiliated with @wpengine or not, please get in touch with them.”

Matt shared in Slack that “There have been a ton of sign-ins since the checkbox went live” He also posted this question in Slack: “What actions should WP Engine do for WordPress.org to remove the new login checkbox.”

Core-committer Colin Stewart asked Matt for more clarification regarding the new checkbox. Matt shared that the checkbox is part of WP Engine’s ban, and the values from it are not stored. Also, WP Engine’s lawsuit has put everyone who participates in .org in the position of possibly needing legal representation. 

Several community members have reported being blocked from WordPress Slack including Javier Casares (Hosting Team Rep and also Lead for the WordPress Advanced Administration Handbook), Ryan McCue (WordPress committer, and co-lead on the WordPress REST API), Jono Alderson (technical SEO consultant), Alex Sirota (founder of NewPath Consulting) and Andrew Hutchings (Chief Contributions Officer at MariaDB Foundation).

Community Response

Many are just eager for the escalating drama to end. Community members also took to X to share their opinions.

Rajendra Zore, CMO of RunCloud summed it up best: “Every day, I hope today will be the day this WP vs WPE drama ends. The Community—who built this OSS and has been completely ignored—finally deserves the attention it’s been missing. The most dysfunctional leadership I’ve ever seen is shamelessly on display, leaving the community feeling like a child caught between fighting parents. So toxic! 😣” 

Bozz Media asked: “Financially, or otherwise” what does this even mean? Is this meant to cover customers of WPE? Either way;  Yikes… Beyond the check mark how is an unrelated “news” link about WPE part of the login form in any way a rational or acceptable UI update to .org ??” 

Plugin developer Daan van den Bergh tweeted: “I’m starting to dislike WordPress because of this. I don’t care about WP Engine: I don’t use their services/plugins, yet I get slapped in the face with this drama every day. Now a F-in login page? WTF!” 

James Giroux (Technical Account Manager at WordPress VIP) published Why Is Matt Turning Up The Volume? He notes “This conflict reveals the true cost of maintaining WordPress infrastructure, and it’s a fight for the survival of WordPress’s values and community integrity.” He continued “Matt is well within his rights as the principal financier of the infrastructure around WordPress to decide who can and cannot access it. He’s usually quite permissive of many things and extends a lot of grace. In this fight for the heart and soul of WordPress, though, he is not holding his punches.”

David Heinemeier Hansson, the creator of Ruby on Rails shared Automattic is doing open source dirty. He says “Between creating one of the most widely used open-source programs and powering half the internet, there’s every tribal reason to side with Automattic over WP Engine’s private-equity owners at Silver Lake….But I suspect Automattic wants to have their cake and eat it too. They want to retain WordPress’ shine of open source, but also be able to extract their pound of flesh from any competitor that might appear, whenever they see fit. Screw that.” 

He also had this to say: “That’s the deal. That’s open source. I give you a gift of code, you accept the terms of the license. There cannot be a second set of shadow obligations that might suddenly apply, if you strike it rich using the software. Then the license is meaningless, the clarity all muddled, and certainty lost.” 

Guillermo Rauch, CEO of Vercel, has shared a Twitter thread analysing the WP login checkbox.

Some took it as a chance to let their imagination run wild.

TheWPGirls have a new song WP Engine Affiliate Blues (Can’t Prove I’m Innocent).

WP Engine Responds

WP Engine has responded in a tweet: “Like the rest of the community, we have seen a new checkbox for logins at WordPress.org that has created confusion amongst the community as to whether or how they are obliged to answer the question posed next to the checkbox. We value our customers, agencies, users and the community as a whole, none of whom are affiliates of WP Engine.”

This is affecting the morale of the thousands of people who voluntarily contribute to their beloved CMS. But then you know what happens when elephants fight. 

(For those who might have missed parts of the dispute, I’ll share a quick summary soon.)

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    • I’d like to suggest a way forward.

      Update the terms to access WordPress.org’s servers to throttle limits of traffic and such so that 95% of WP users will never cross it.

      Open a premium their for access to updates, plugins and such that starts at 10k / mth and ramps up

      Give a ‘we love these sponsors” link to anyone who really donates a significant amount of money and or time

      It’s fine with me to add some limits to the resources and add a way to pay for servers and staffing – I run from ‘open source projects’ that promise the world when I know they have not viable way forward anyhow (looking at you ‘unlimited video conversion plugins (kaltura / rtmedia? can’t recall for sure, it’s been so long)

      Meta limits open source lama to those companies with over hit 750 million MAU (which I think is too high, I’d make it 1 mill, but it can change too) – this still makes it useful for most and something people can be comfortable building with.

      Most web hosts have limits as to what you can do with your ‘open internet’ and even ‘unlimited hosting’ – so this is not a uniquely WP problem or solution seeking.

      Put limits on number of website or users or bandwidth or something – make it high – I throw random numbers out having no idea how much anyone involved spends on servers or staff or how many sites or users they have.

      Just don’t force me to pay if I have 100 wordpress sites, cuz I can’t and I would look to other solutions.. I would think someone with 10,000 websites would not have no problem pitching in at least something – even $1 / month to help with hosting and such.

      Aside from servers and bandwidth, we really do need to support w. org – we need the group keeping an eye on plugins and themes and security therein – let’s not destroy this whole thing because someone wasn’t polite and someone reacted in a way people didn’t like.

      No one likes change. Everyone wants things to be better. No one likes change.

      Sometimes we need some change to ensure a better future.

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    • What a unmitigated disaster. It just keeps escalating :(

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    • I love the WP Engine Affiliate Blues (Can’t Prove I’m Innocent) by The WP Girls (check it out on Youtube, the link is in this article).
      That said, I hate all the rest of this crazy episode. Come on, are you willing to destroy WordPress*, or what?
      (*) Sorry, it wasn´t my intention to infringe any trademark. Should I just have written WP?

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    • Where in the GPL says open source software must have free maintenance services? The wordpress.org gives a great convenience for every WordPress site onwer, not just developers and admins, but also people without any programming skills, to maintain the site with just few button clicking. However, this convenience is not free, but almost all of its users including plugin developers, theme designer, and hosting providers never pay for it. The reason for not paying is never because GPL says so. And no WordPress installation can’t be functioning as the open source code is built for without this maintenance service; many paid plugins and themes don’t use wordpress.org to provide updates, and their businesses are fine. People on the WPE side are only there because they are afraid a giant profiter of this open source software starts to pay for the maintenance service provided by WordPress.org, then they, the smaller profiteers, would end up paying, too

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    • I really am interested to see how this comes out in court because even after reading every drama summary article that flashes across my feeds… I still gotta say I don’t really understand what is going on.

      Is it about revisions being disabled (even though wordpress.com offers its own restricted version of the product)?

      Is it about use of trademarks?

      Is it about number of hours contributed back to WP dev?

      Is it about the amount of resources that WPE customers use on wordpress.org?

      And whichever one it is about, is that actually a legal matter or just an annoyance that they are beyond what was envisioned at the start?

      Matt seems very sure about it, and I would think that he isn’t suddenly insane. but I don’t know what the crux of it actually is, to try to get my head around it.

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    • I am not pleased that I’m recovering from a hurricane (Helene) and now I’m being dragged deeper into this mess. I support Matt and WordPress but now it’s starting to harm me directly. I have to move 17 sites on the day I’m prepping to head back to Asheville to volunteer. I’m doing it because I really don’t know what that statement next to the checkbox even means because it’s not clear and there are no terms associated with it. WP Engine can say one thing, but how would a lawyer even know at this poin? It’s uncharted waters with little precedent. This has never happened so it’s all new ground and Matt is now asking all of us to join the strike or pay the price, and he won’t tell us the price of checking thet box is or isn’t. These are games I shouldn’t be part of, that’s for sure.

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    • This conflict is only harming the entire community and WordPress itself. They should end it immediately.

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    • Just went and signed in to .org and gladly checked the box.
      Thanks to Matt I am able to use the best most open system on the web to use to make a living.
      Where would WP be without .org, which is funded and owned Matt (as I understand it).

      The man’s record of support and innovation for every single person who has ever visited .org is unmatched.

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    • The situation between WP Engine and Automattic feels like a reality TV show we didn’t sign up for. The new login checkbox only adds fuel to the fire, and it’s tough watching our beloved WordPress community caught in the crossfire. Let’s hope for a resolution soon so we can get back to what truly matters: creating and collaborating.

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    • It’s all getting a bit too petty. The fact that it’s leaving many sites in jeopardy in terms to updates for ACF, where an awful lot of WordPress users are not even aware of current debacle, speaks volumes of the irresponsible stewardship at the moment.

      More telling is the distraction away from the many issues within the software that need addressing in terms of bringing the CMS etc. up to date. Many tricks been missed in making WordPress a platform that many serious developers might want to jump over to.

      But I suppose it’s just for blogging and for philosophical publishing… I’ll you mull over that.

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    • First I thought it was a joke, silly like a Monty Python parody. Now I’m not so sure. It may just be a very simple yet clever way of keeping the ongoing issues at the forefront of the minds of those who use org on a regular basis. While everyone is either; scrambling for clarification / trying to decide whether they need legal representation / wondering what the heck affiliated means in this context / or just nonchalantly checking the box and getting on with stuff, it seems to be having the deliberate effect of causing confusion and at the same time dictating that we should all consider choosing a side, and yes that includes those who weren’t too familiar with or maybe even were previously blissfully unaware of WP Engine. To me it looks Matthew is actively attempting to get rid of anyone who is not willing to side with him, and he figures that a smaller community with 100% allegiance is preferable. Will everyone pick a side? Of course not, but some who previously hadn’t just may now feel like they are being forced to do so. Not saying I agree with it or that I want to take a side, just my tuppence for all it’s worth, and I’m more than willing to change my view if more information presents itself. It’d be interesting to know if this checkbox has in any way impacted on the numbers logging in. A “ton” of logins doesn’t really mean much if we have no comparison to the previous tons.

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    • If Matt’s big complaint is that WP Engine doesn’t contribute enough to WordPress.org, how is making it so that they actually can’t contribute at ALL going to solve his issue?

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    • Welcome to the late capitalism era. Those who have red Marx should now be able to see how this system approaches near the edge of it’s ability to further bolster progress and development. Right now it is transforming to a kind of neo-feudalism where monopolies and oligopolies have more incentives to receive the rent then to invest in something new and beneficial to the general public.

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    • Wow, that’s an interesting development with WordPress.org! Adding a mandatory affiliation checkbox seems like a big shift, especially after the WP Engine dispute. It feels like it’s going to impact how users interact with the platform, and I’m curious to see how this plays out for the community. Transparency is key, but I hope it doesn’t create extra hurdles for users trying to access their accounts. Thanks for keeping us updated on this.

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    • I had to lie to delete my account. Not that I am affiliated with wp engine, but i won’t “ask a lawyer” for something you Matt put on your website. I’m pretty sure not explaining what it means in the details violate several EU laws, not that you care. Anyway, I’m out for good, I won’t risk lying more than once to login in in your pathetic website.

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    • You know, I didn’t know my ACF was out of date and vulnerable. I had installed it from WordPress.org and enabled automatic updates long ago. Matt’s decision put people’s livelihoods at risk. War if you must but keep your bombs away from the civilians.

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    • This situation seems to be escalating quickly and is creating a lot of confusion within the community. The mandatory checkbox feels like a heavy-handed approach, and I can see why many are frustrated. It’s unfortunate that contributors and users are caught in the middle of this conflict.

      I agree with Rajendra Zore’s sentiment���it’s time for the community to get the focus it deserves, free from drama. Open source thrives on collaboration, and it feels like this dispute is putting that spirit at risk.

      I’m curious to see how this will unfold. Will there be any resolution that allows WP Engine and Automattic to coexist peacefully within the WordPress ecosystem?

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